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Ron Fortier
post Jun 1 2010, 08:52 AM
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I see on the news board here that after two years, Guillermo del Toro has left the HOBBIT project he was doing with Peter Jackson due to the fact the studios
can't give them a real release date due to muddle litigation between New Line, Warner Bros. and MGM. So Guillermo simply had to move on to his shopping list of other commitments. Bad news. Indeed. But there might be a really sweet silver lining as one of those other film projects on his list was TARZAN, and I for one would much rather see a new del Toro Tarzan epic instead of more big-footed munchkins. tongue.gif

On the DVD front, my wife and I finally sat down and watched Michael Mann's take on depression era outlaw, John Dillinger, with PUBLIC ENEMY. A really superbly well executed movie (and in all takes place in the pulp heyday of the mid-30s...I loved watching the cars, clothes and airplanes...) with a dynamite cast of Johnny Depp as the midwest outlaw who charmed the public at large and Christian Bale as the educated, upper class lawman who hunted him down. Even with its bits of fiction interwoven with the historical facts, it ends up being a really entertaining film on many levels. Still, one has to wonder how much of the Dillinger hoax Mann is aware off? Years ago, crime writer and historian, Max Allan Collins wrote a detailed expose on the fact that man actually down in front of the Bi-Graf theater in Chicago was not John Dillinger. Actual photos of the body on the sidewalk clearly indicate it is not Dillinger, one of the most photographed faces in America at that time. The autopsy report has the body inches shorter, weighing less, wrong color hair, etc.etc.etc. It was so obviously not Dillinger, yet the Feds loudly proclaimed they got their man...and that was that. Collins assumption is the Feds, embarrassed at not being able to capture the wily crook, killed another felon, set up as a patsy to make them look good. And as for the "real" Dillinger, upon reading of the bogus slaying, he smartly realized his days were numbered and he went into hiding and obviously living to a ripe old age, when he would have died in obscurity. Sure makes for some interesting debates, does it not?

And finally, dashed over to Wal-Mart first thing this morning and bought the extended WOLFMAN. One of my favorite movies of last year, comes with an additional 16 minutes in this Director's Cut. I still consider it a brilliant movie and that it really was underrated by the critics. And that's Ron's Movie Corner for this week, CR amigos.
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post Jun 1 2010, 11:11 AM
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Ah great! I'm SO happy Wolfman released on DVD! I'll be getting that when I get home for sure! I managed to miss it at the theater much like I did the Losers and I've been anxiously anticipating the DVD release.

And I saw the whole mess with del Torro. Odd, and kinda sad because I felt like he would have brought a wicked cool look to the film, but at the end of the day with Peter Jackson still attached I don't think it will affect the big picture. We'll get a different stylized view with the next guy, whoever that is, but we'll still be getting the bulk of the story. Plus I'm sure theylkk use the 2 years worth of costumes and creatures del Torro helped them design, which will totally rock. I just can't wait to see Smaug! I think it'll be a great set of movies once they get around to making them.


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post Jun 1 2010, 11:14 AM
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I agree, Cary, Jackson will find another talented director, no one would think of NOT making those films now, after all the time and effort on pre-production.
It will just be a slightly different film without del Toro at the helm.
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post Jun 1 2010, 05:36 PM
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An extended version of Wolf-Man! Awwwwoooooo!!!!!!


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post Jun 2 2010, 04:56 AM
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You know, while on the subject of WOLFMAN, it is a good segue into the unsettling news making the rounds about the costume they are using for Joe Johnson's new movie CAPTAIN AMERICA. I am really not going to like anything that looks "practical and real." If Jack Kirby had wanted Cap to look like G.I.Joe he would have drawn him like that. He didn't. He drew him wearing chain-mail and cloth and proudly flaunting the red, white and blue for all the world to see. Anything less is NOT Captain America.
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post Jun 2 2010, 06:18 AM
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I agree 100%, Ron. Of any superhero, Captain America needs to be shown in his real costume. Cap is not just a hero and a fighter, but a symbol and an inspiration. He's a living flag! Any filmmakers who feel some need to change that obviously don't understand the essence of the character.
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post Jun 2 2010, 10:44 AM
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Yeah from what I hear we're getting the "Ultimates" version of the Cap costume. It's the same old thing guys. Hollywood is mortally afraid of tights or anything even closely resembling them and so they change things up. I mean come on, they put the freakin X-men in LEATHER! They looked like a bunch of weird BDSM convention goers! Sure it sold more action figures but is that the point? It wasn't true to the books, and Cap will be more of the same. It's astonishing to me how much Marvel gets right with their movies like Iron man and the newer Hulk, and then...this.

Having said all that, I still wish the Hulk ate people. smile.gif I thought that was the most brilliant part of the Ultimates changes.


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post Jun 2 2010, 12:15 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with the costume overall. The wings wouldn't have worked practically.


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post Jun 2 2010, 12:31 PM
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YAHOOOO!!!!! I just saw this too and am totally on board for this version of the costume. It has no dorky steep pot helmet, the A is on his forehead, the star on his chest and he's dressed in RED - WHITE - & BLUE. Now this IS Captain America. My faith in director Joe Johnson has been completely restored.
Phew, we dodged a bullet here.
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post Jun 2 2010, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (Ron Fortier @ Jun 2 2010, 02:31 PM) *
YAHOOOO!!!!! I just saw this too and am totally on board for this version of the costume. It has no dorky steep pot helmet, the A is on his forehead, the star on his chest and he's dressed in RED - WHITE - & BLUE. Now this IS Captain America. My faith in director Joe Johnson has been completely restored.
Phew, we dodged a bullet here.

Th other costume that was rolling around online, the WW2 looking one was something a fan cooked up if I remember correctly. Cool looking but nowhere near the right level for Cap. Can't wait to see Evans donning this costume.


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post Jun 2 2010, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Ron Fortier @ Jun 1 2010, 12:14 PM) *
I agree, Cary, Jackson will find another talented director, no one would think of NOT making those films now, after all the time and effort on pre-production.
It will just be a slightly different film without del Toro at the helm.

Will it be in 3D, of will delays push it back enough to allow it to premier 4D technology? cool.gif


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post Jun 2 2010, 02:23 PM
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Hahaha, good point, Cary. 4D. Now that sounds radical. Ha. But right now 3D is Hollywood's way of added to the price of a ticket and they are going to milk it for all its worth. Expect 90% of new action adventure movies to all be filmed in the process for the foreseeable future.
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post Jun 2 2010, 04:23 PM
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I'm kinda getting tired of the whole 3D revolution as it were. We went through this mess in the early 80s and it kinda sucked then. It's better now, at least some, but really like any fad it'll pass and I'll be glad when it does.


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post Jun 2 2010, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (Cary @ Jun 2 2010, 06:23 PM) *
I'm kinda getting tired of the whole 3D revolution as it were. We went through this mess in the early 80s and it kinda sucked then. It's better now, at least some, but really like any fad it'll pass and I'll be glad when it does.

For once we agree completely sir' Dear hollywood..enough with the 3-d!


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post Jun 4 2010, 11:25 AM
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That costume is pretty cool, I miss the wings though... I think they would still work. Besides, I think there is some symbological importance to the wings as a symbol of Victory as embodied by the winged goddess, Nike. Moreover... I like them, they aren't stylish or cool, but for some reason I like them. In fact, I never liked the Ultimates version of Cap because he didn't have the wings... that's the only reason... no wings, no likey.


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post Jun 4 2010, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (Crazz @ Jun 2 2010, 02:17 PM) *
Will it be in 3D, of will delays push it back enough to allow it to premier 4D technology? cool.gif

It'll be just like Disney World!! When he throws a punch, YOU'LL FEEL IT!! When bullets bounce off of the shield, YOU'LL FEEL THEM!! Bring on the 4D!!


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post Jun 4 2010, 06:25 PM
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All this talk about those extra Ds....it was bound to happen sooner or later. I just learned an outfit in California has started releasing 3D Adult movies.
rolleyes.gif Now let your imaginations go wild. Talk about a "brave new world."
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post Jun 4 2010, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (Ron Fortier @ Jun 4 2010, 06:25 PM) *
All this talk about those extra Ds....it was bound to happen sooner or later. I just learned an outfit in California has started releasing 3D Adult movies.
rolleyes.gif Now let your imaginations go wild. Talk about a "brave new world."

Bleccccchhhh! Next they'll be in Funk-o-vision!


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post Jun 4 2010, 07:33 PM
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3-D will only ever be good when they get rid of the glasses. And the best Captain America costume is still the one Reb Brown was wearing against Christopher Lee. Dumb movie, but great costume.
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QUOTE (LurkD @ Jun 4 2010, 07:33 PM) *
3-D will only ever be good when they get rid of the glasses. And the best Captain America costume is still the one Reb Brown was wearing against Christopher Lee. Dumb movie, but great costume.

For some reason I still love that old theme music!!


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