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Cary
post Apr 30 2011, 05:19 AM
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http://comicrelated.com/blog.php#american-way-no-more

So I read that yesterday and the more I think about it the more it pisses me off. You can take all your sweet little PC talk about how the world is so much smaller these days and shove it. Superman has always fought for truth justice and the AMERICAN way. That's who he is. If he had fallen to Earth in Russia things might be different, but he didn't. So now they strip yet another piece of the character away, in what I can only view as a marketing scheme. They should have left him dead after Doomsday. This...is a travesty. DC comics should be ashamed.


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post May 2 2011, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE (Mark Ellis @ May 2 2011, 09:30 PM) *
To me, getting upset over this is tantamount to getting upset over Bugs Bunny's mistreatment of Daffy Duck in "Duck Amuck."



I sort of did get upset by that. smile.gif


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post May 3 2011, 03:24 AM
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QUOTE (ChadStrohl @ May 2 2011, 07:05 PM) *
I sort of did get upset by that. smile.gif


We are also forgetting that Joe Shuster was Canadian, so Superman's renunciation of his adopted homeland can be seen as somewhat more understandable.

The following comments are courtesy of DC artist Brett Booth, and not my opinion. I have reposted them here because I feel he understands the point clearly about Superman renouncing his citizenship.

Just a few things. First, Shuster was Canadian. Superman did not fight the Nazi's until the 40's, he fought regular criminals until then. He was created in 30's. The American way was added later.

There is no liberal spin. Obama is the president in the story. If it was Bush I could see that. And yes, is Superman does something in another country, if he's so American it can and will be considered and American attack, he is a member the Justice League of AMERICA. If you don't think some evil dictator wouldn't use that you need to get out more.

No reason to change? To protect America and it's citizens from attacks he gives up something he holds dear. How does that diminish the character? Sounds like something he'd do to me. All the crap you like and remember about Superman was originally done on the TV show, not the comic. The 'American Way' What ever the hell that is now, was only done there and the movie. Remember the comic was restarted 80's , he is not completely the same, his father didn't die when he was young, powers are slightly different, ect. Characters change and evolve, that you can't seem to understand this says more about you than Goyer. Times change, the world is NOT the same place it was in the 50's. For some reason you seem to the think the US is the best, this is simply not the case. We are not the best anymore. The sooner you and your kind releize this, the soon we can actually start making positive changes. The 50's was not the bastion of greatness you seem to think it was, unless you were a rich white male, why go back when we should be moving forward. That is what is happening in the comic and real life.

You do understand the people who are pitching a fit are all the same type. White Republicans, funny:)




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post May 3 2011, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE (cougar18 @ May 3 2011, 02:24 AM) *
We are also forgetting that Joe Shuster was Canadian, so Superman's renunciation of his adopted homeland can be seen as somewhat more understandable.

The following comments are courtesy of DC artist Brett Booth, and not my opinion. I have reposted them here because I feel he understands the point clearly about Superman renouncing his citizenship.

Just a few things. First, Shuster was Canadian. Superman did not fight the Nazi's until the 40's, he fought regular criminals until then. He was created in 30's. The American way was added later.

There is no liberal spin. Obama is the president in the story. If it was Bush I could see that. And yes, is Superman does something in another country, if he's so American it can and will be considered and American attack, he is a member the Justice League of AMERICA. If you don't think some evil dictator wouldn't use that you need to get out more.

No reason to change? To protect America and it's citizens from attacks he gives up something he holds dear. How does that diminish the character? Sounds like something he'd do to me. All the crap you like and remember about Superman was originally done on the TV show, not the comic. The 'American Way' What ever the hell that is now, was only done there and the movie. Remember the comic was restarted 80's , he is not completely the same, his father didn't die when he was young, powers are slightly different, ect. Characters change and evolve, that you can't seem to understand this says more about you than Goyer. Times change, the world is NOT the same place it was in the 50's. For some reason you seem to the think the US is the best, this is simply not the case. We are not the best anymore. The sooner you and your kind releize this, the soon we can actually start making positive changes. The 50's was not the bastion of greatness you seem to think it was, unless you were a rich white male, why go back when we should be moving forward. That is what is happening in the comic and real life.

You do understand the people who are pitching a fit are all the same type. White Republicans, funny:)




All comments are taken from his blog, and click on the link below to see the context.

Brett Booth Blog


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- Cary   Citizen no more   Apr 30 2011, 05:19 AM
- - Glen Davis   That's the way I feel about it.   Apr 30 2011, 11:33 AM
|- - Mark Ellis   QUOTE (Glen Davis @ Apr 30 2011, 01:33 PM...   Apr 30 2011, 11:47 AM
|- - tbrotomo   Gimmicky and ridiculous. What's really annoy...   Apr 30 2011, 12:08 PM
- - Gonzogoose   That's actually not necessarily true, Cary. Th...   Apr 30 2011, 12:19 PM
- - Cary   Ok so it's only been "American way" ...   Apr 30 2011, 02:07 PM
|- - cougar18   QUOTE (Cary @ Apr 30 2011, 12:07 PM) Ok s...   May 1 2011, 10:39 PM
- - Tim Tilley   I'm just mostly re-posting what I said on Face...   Apr 30 2011, 02:30 PM
- - Dave Arhar   It's definitely a publicity stunt, but I think...   Apr 30 2011, 02:52 PM
- - Gonzogoose   Cary, you said "always," I was just corr...   Apr 30 2011, 02:57 PM
|- - Cary   QUOTE (Gonzogoose @ Apr 30 2011, 03:57 PM...   May 1 2011, 05:30 AM
|- - Mark Ellis   QUOTE (Cary @ May 1 2011, 07:30 AM) It...   May 1 2011, 06:42 AM
- - Tim Tilley   I think the main reason I don't care is becaus...   Apr 30 2011, 02:57 PM
- - Gonzogoose   Honestly, I don't even think that was their in...   Apr 30 2011, 03:01 PM
|- - Mark Ellis   You realize of course that unless Superman (not Cl...   Apr 30 2011, 03:54 PM
- - Mike Luoma   Supes is an illegal. Always has been, really. Look...   Apr 30 2011, 04:30 PM
- - Eric Adams   Man, this thread is ripe for sparring... First, I...   Apr 30 2011, 08:08 PM
- - wwi3313   Perhaps if this was a part of a bigger storyline -...   Apr 30 2011, 09:00 PM
- - ChadStrohl   Sounds like the writer in question is honoring the...   Apr 30 2011, 10:47 PM
|- - tbrotomo   QUOTE (ChadStrohl @ Apr 30 2011, 09:47 PM...   Apr 30 2011, 11:52 PM
|- - Zodar   QUOTE (ChadStrohl @ May 1 2011, 12:47 AM)...   May 2 2011, 07:30 AM
- - Gonzogoose   Cary, it's not that I don't understand... ...   May 1 2011, 09:12 AM
|- - Cary   QUOTE (Gonzogoose @ May 1 2011, 10:12 AM)...   May 1 2011, 02:57 PM
|- - Mark Ellis   QUOTE (Cary @ May 1 2011, 04:57 PM) As to...   May 2 2011, 07:53 AM
|- - cougar18   QUOTE (Mark Ellis @ May 2 2011, 06:53 AM)...   May 2 2011, 12:33 PM
|- - Cary   QUOTE (cougar18 @ May 2 2011, 01:33 PM) G...   May 2 2011, 05:35 PM
|- - cougar18   QUOTE (Cary @ May 2 2011, 04:35 PM) It...   May 2 2011, 06:43 PM
|- - Mark Ellis   QUOTE (Cary @ May 2 2011, 07:35 PM) Accor...   May 2 2011, 07:30 PM
|- - Gonzogoose   QUOTE (Mark Ellis @ May 2 2011, 09:30 PM)...   May 2 2011, 09:02 PM
- - Gonzogoose   I just think that there are two ways to view this....   May 1 2011, 03:34 PM
- - Cary   Being a Superman fan and reader going back almost ...   May 2 2011, 06:00 AM
|- - Zodar   QUOTE (Cary @ May 2 2011, 08:00 AM) And f...   May 2 2011, 06:35 AM
- - Kenn Minter   I'm on Superman's side. I think it's g...   May 2 2011, 07:55 AM
- - Glen Davis   http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/hollywoo...on-th...   May 2 2011, 11:33 AM
- - Liam Bradley   I F**KING LOVE THIS THREAD.   May 2 2011, 07:12 PM
- - ChadStrohl   QUOTE (Zodar @ May 2 2011, 09:30 AM) I...   May 2 2011, 09:01 PM
|- - cougar18   QUOTE (ChadStrohl @ May 2 2011, 07:05 PM)...   May 3 2011, 03:24 AM
|- - Gordon_D   Rather than get involved in some of the more jingo...   May 3 2011, 07:54 PM
|- - cougar18   QUOTE (Gordon_D @ May 3 2011, 06:54 PM) R...   May 4 2011, 05:00 AM
- - Cary   Ah, Brett Booth has decided everyone who has an op...   May 3 2011, 05:43 AM
|- - Mark Ellis   QUOTE (Cary @ May 3 2011, 07:43 AM) That ...   May 3 2011, 10:36 AM
- - Gonzogoose   He's not wadding it up and throwing it away, t...   May 3 2011, 05:57 AM
|- - Cary   QUOTE (Gonzogoose @ May 3 2011, 06:57 AM)...   May 3 2011, 06:01 AM
- - Gonzogoose   Well, in real life, anytime America intervenes in ...   May 3 2011, 06:12 AM
- - cougar18   QUOTE (Gonzogoose @ May 3 2011, 05:12 AM)...   May 3 2011, 08:23 AM
- - Cary   QUOTE (Gonzogoose @ May 3 2011, 07:12 AM)...   May 4 2011, 05:35 AM
- - Zodar   QUOTE (Cary @ May 4 2011, 07:35 AM) It wo...   May 4 2011, 06:21 AM
- - cougar18   QUOTE (Zodar @ May 4 2011, 05:21 AM) Yeah...   May 4 2011, 06:44 AM


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